{"id":13222,"date":"2026-07-02T15:56:48","date_gmt":"2026-07-02T20:56:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ckuw.ca\/stylus\/?p=13222"},"modified":"2026-07-03T15:17:52","modified_gmt":"2026-07-03T20:17:52","slug":"ckuwho-band-for-band-fridays-3-4-pm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ckuw.ca\/stylus\/2026\/07\/02\/ckuwho-band-for-band-fridays-3-4-pm\/","title":{"rendered":"CKUWho? Band for Band (Fridays, 3 &#8211; 4 pm)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>by <strong>Maggie A. Clark<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m not on social media anymore (except when I have a new issue of the magazine to promote to the dozen-odd people who follow us on Bluesky!), but back when I used to be, I recall having seen just enough posts containing the phrase \u201cband for band\u201d to be able to reconstruct its meaning from context. And it\u2019s a good thing I did! I wouldn\u2019t have wanted to embarrass myself in front of my new pals Winnie and Christina, the hosts of a radio show with that very title. Our interview is printed below with the usual \u201cedited for clarity, etc.\u201d proviso.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Your bio on the CKUW website describes you as \u201cformer pretentious iTunes collecting zillennials.\u201d I\u2019m curious where the emphasis is on \u201cformer.\u201d Are you formerly <\/strong><strong><em>pretentious<\/em><\/strong><strong>, or do you no longer maintain an iTunes collection?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Christina<\/strong>: I think it\u2019s the iTunes collection.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Winnie<\/strong>: The thing is, the \u201cformer\u201d is a misnomer now. I\u2019ve gone back to iTunes now. Now that I have a flip phone, I\u2019ve been dealing with a lot more actual audio files than back when I was just using streaming. So it is a bit of a misnomer; we\u2019re both still pretentious.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: So then, Christina, how do you prefer to mediate your music consumption these days?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: I use a lot of Bandcamp and Tidal mostly. We both divested from using Spotify for very obvious reasons, particularly their lack of ability to pay artists and also their [airing of recruitment ads for] ICE and the IDF. Like, why am I paying to support that? So, I am a Tidal user. It\u2019s not <em>great<\/em>, but\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus<\/strong>:<strong> Yeah, your money is just going to end up in some evil bastard\u2019s pocket somewhere, ultimately.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: But I control that it\u2019s someone slightly less evil. I also really have been trying to be intentional about how I consume music. I don\u2019t think having the world be your oyster is great for music consumption because I find that you don&#8217;t appreciate full bodies of work as much. So I have been trying to step away from that and not [keep] doing the thing that I have been doing probably for the last 10 years of having streaming \u2014 being like, \u201coh, these 10 albums just came out. I need to listen to every single one!\u201d and [instead] probably focusing on three or four for at least six months, and just paying attention to those, and learning more about those artists, and supporting those artists as well.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: I don\u2019t think either of us rely on the algorithms from streaming anymore at all. It\u2019s Bandcamp or maybe radio, or\u2014&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: I listen to <em>a lot<\/em> of radio. I listen to KEXP livestreams every single day, and that\u2019s how I\u2019ve been finding a lot of new music.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: And CDs in the dollar bin at Sally Ann.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: So, about the show, how long have you been on the air?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: It\u2019s almost been a year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Since September of 2025, I think?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Describe the premise of Band for Band.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: I think the way we pitched it [originally] has shifted a little. In some ways, maybe the way I would describe it comes across [as] boys who realize they want to do a podcast. But we\u2019ve got banter and we have some competing tastes in music occasionally. We have lots of overlap, but the initial idea was that we would go, quote unquote, \u201cband for band.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Which is a Central Cee song. Initially, it started as a joke. We realized that the way that we consume music always leads to debates in our living room. So, we were, like, wouldn\u2019t it just be fun to be able to do that [on the radio]?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Yeah, there is a sort of weird, performative, competitive aspect to music consumption sometimes.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: So the show has its fair share of ribbing and making [fun]. Even today, [May 8, 2026], we were playing songs from 2016, and in promoting it, we both revisited some cringe moments, photos that we\u2019d taken, [reflecting on] where we were at 10 years ago, and\u2014&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: I don&#8217;t want to think about that!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Yeah, and that\u2019s the thing. It was weird.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Do either of you have a favourite theme you\u2019ve dealt with so far?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: One that we want to [become an] occasionally recurring episode is on our favourite bass lines. That was fun. Occasionally, the ones that get us talking too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: I think today\u2019s was really fun. Sometimes, when we try to find hyperspecific things, I feel like it takes the fun out of it and feels a little bit too pretentious. [<em>to Winnie<\/em>] I know you have a playlist from, like, a million years ago that\u2019s songs with really good cowbell, or\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Tambourine. I really want to do it. I\u2019m gonna do it someday.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: How stringent are you in your adherence to theme? Are there any songs you&#8217;ve been <\/strong><strong><em>wanting<\/em><\/strong><strong> to play but keep having to cut because the connection is too tenuous, or do you just crowbar things in regardless?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: That happens. There have been instances where one of us can\u2019t do the show, so [the other one does] a solo set. It\u2019s always really funny because I\u2019ve created this ridiculous theme called \u201cTina Time,\u201d where I essentially just play songs I know you do not like at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Which is so overstated! And then another time, you called it \u201cTeacher\u2019s Gone, Party\u2019s On\u201d \u2019cause I was not there to police your music taste \u2014 which is an awful thing that never happens, guys!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: And we talk about it on-air, too, which is so funny. And the first time I did that, the first song [I played] was \u201cTemporary Secretary.\u201d And then, something happened to the board, so it started playing and then stopped. It played for, like, a minute, but I couldn\u2019t hear it. So I essentially played the song twice in a row. And I thought it pretty much exemplified our relationship to the show, and how much you hate that song.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: The fun of it, [\u201cTemporary Secretary\u201d] \u2014 it does taper off a bit towards the end. It\u2019s, like, ehhh [<\/strong><strong><em>makes gesture indicating indifference<\/em><\/strong><strong>].<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: The song goes on too long. But sometimes, we have songs that we\u2019re really enjoying and we try to find a theme that could [allow] us to play that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Do you have any go-to record labels you\u2019ve been listening to lately?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Cooked Raw, out of Toronto. But selfishly, because they\u2019re friends [of mine]. I feel very passionate about the stuff they\u2019ve been releasing. I think the band Accelerant is on Cooked Raw, [as is] cootie catcher. They\u2019re having their moment right now. I think they might have switched labels [&#8230;] What about you?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Another Canadian one. You\u2019ve Changed Records. It\u2019s Daniel Romano\u2019s label. And I think the artist that I\u2019ve listened to the most that has come out of that is Jennifer Castle. I really love her stuff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: But also, [the] classics. Mainly \u2014 because I\u2019ve been listening to a lot of KEXP, which is based out of Seattle \u2014 Sub Pop.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Oh, yeah. That\u2019s one of the [main] ones.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: And I feel like they\u2019ve been signing a lot of really good people. They just signed the band PISS.<strong> <\/strong>But yeah, historically, everyone probably listens to at least one or two artists that either initially was on that label or [is] still on that label.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: What are your top five albums? And, in the spirit of going \u201cband for band,\u201d we can go back and forth on this.<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: That\u2019s a good question.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Like, are we talking all-time?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: It could be. I\u2019m not going to prejudice your answer by answering that.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: OK, one I think you\u2019re going to agree with is Aretha Franklin, [<em>Aretha Live at Fillmore West<\/em>].<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Yeah, that\u2019s a great album.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Aretha Franklin is just untouchable. Such an incredible live album. The band is so, so good, and you can feel the energy of the crowd. I adore that album.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus:<\/strong> <strong>Miles Davis, <\/strong><strong><em>In a Silent Way<\/em><\/strong><strong>. Really good album. Jazz fusion. A lot of people at the time were kind of [suspicious] of his pivot to his electric era. I think those people are wrong. [But] it\u2019s also irrelevant now because it\u2019s a very popular album, so I don&#8217;t even know what sort of oppositional stance I\u2019m trying to stake here by saying that one of the greatest jazz musicians of all-time made a good album.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: I think it\u2019s indicative when an artist angers a lot of fans when they\u2019ve been big.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: We\u2019ve all seen the videos of people coming out of the Bob Dylan show and they\u2019re like, \u201che\u2019s gone electric! I hate this so much! It\u2019s so terrible!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: And then look at that. It was wildly important, as [with] Miles Davis.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: The two that I can really think about off the top of my head [are] <em>Talking Heads: 77<\/em> and <em>Entertainment!<\/em>, Gang of Four. Those are two of my all-time favourite albums, mainly because that was my introduction to post-punk [and] kind of weird sampling, but also experimentation in rock music. I spent a lot of my adolescence listening to rap and jazz, and sampling being a part of both those worlds so heavily. But seeing David Byrne being really obsessed with polyrhythms and finding a way to implement that into post-punk. I just feel like those albums are incredibly classic. No skips, every single time I listen to them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: I don\u2019t skip. I don\u2019t skip songs, period. If I\u2019m listening to an album, I\u2019m just gonna listen to [the full thing]. Even if [it has tracks] that are weaker [than the rest], I\u2019ll just listen. Whatever. I already have it on, you know?<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Yeah, that\u2019s so fair.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Before we had computers and CDs, no one was skipping songs in that way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus:<\/strong> <strong>I guess you\u2019d just kind of have to, like, [<\/strong><strong><em>gestures moving a record player stylus closer to the centre of a record<\/em><\/strong><strong>]. Maybe on the B side of <\/strong><strong><em>Sgt. Pepper<\/em><\/strong><strong>, somebody doesn\u2019t like fuckin\u2019 \u201c[Being for the] Benefit of Mr. Kite!\u201d [Except] that\u2019s a good Beatles song. Whatever.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Another one for me is <em>Mule Variations<\/em> by Tom Waits. [&#8230;] Tina has come around a little to Tom Waits.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: I don\u2019t reeeeealllly like him. I don\u2019t care for it. Occasionally, though, because of all the playlists you\u2019ve made me, some songs off of that will come on shuffle. Whatever.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Well, that\u2019s the thing. That album has something for everybody. It\u2019s got the most drop-dead gorgeous piano ballads and his lyrics, the way he sings them, he\u2019s just so clearly in love with his wife, Kathleen Brennan. And then\u2014&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Wife guy music. That&#8217;s a theme, maybe! I don&#8217;t know.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Wife guy music! Oh my god. Yes, thank you! We gotta do it. So, there\u2019s his wife guy songs, but then there\u2019s also these songs where he\u2019s got someone hitting a tin pan while he\u2019s yelling into the mic and someone&#8217;s strumming these weird, folky, on-the-road rock songs. And then there\u2019s these songs like \u201cWhat\u2019s He Building?,\u201d which is just him reciting this weird, long poem over creepy barn sounds, [&#8230;] and it\u2019s awesome. It\u2019s just so awesome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: I feel like I\u2019m gonna lose this one on a technicality, but I\u2019m gonna say Arthur Russell&#8217;s whole discography.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: You gotta choose an album!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus:<\/strong> <strong>Arbitrarily!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: OK. He didn\u2019t actually release any of those albums while he was alive, except for <em>World of Echo<\/em>. And everything else, his estate turned into compilation albums, so who knows if he would have ended up putting any of those songs [together]?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Oh, hey, <em>Love Is <\/em>[<em>Overtaking Me<\/em>] is being reissued on vinyl. I want to get it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus:<\/strong> <strong>One I\u2019ve been listening to a lot lately is <\/strong><strong><em>The Four Louies<\/em><\/strong><strong> by Bill Orcutt. Because I both want [my list] to include Bill Orcutt and \u201cFour Organs\u201d by Steve Reich, and this is a mashup album where he puts \u201cFour Organs\u201d and the song \u201cLouie Louie\u201d together. It\u2019s basically a shitpost, but it\u2019s just really enjoyable. Bill Orcutt [is] mostly a guitarist, but he sometimes ventures into weird sound collage, I guess.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: <em>SUN MILK<\/em> by Little Kid. Little Kid\u2019s a Toronto band. They kind of do everything. I feel like they have songs that are very in line with alternative rock [and] then, folk country, kind of. I just really love that album because it is just so, so beautiful. Kenny Boothby, who\u2019s the lead singer of the band, he\u2019s just an amazing lyricist and has the wackiest kind of warbly, Bob Dylan-ish vocal style. And I love them mainly because they have really tried to not fully go for it, commercially. They all have regular day jobs and are quite content with it and have been making music since the 2000s and they\u2019re local heroes, I would say. Like, everyone in Toronto knows about them, but I feel like very few people outside of Ontario do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: They\u2019ve had an opportunity to get bigger scenes\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: \u2014but chosen not to. That\u2019s awesome.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: It\u2019s so amazing. They\u2019re great people. They\u2019re great musicians, and that album is just so beautiful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: It makes me enjoy listening to the music more, knowing that they care a lot about things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: They\u2019re slowcore-ish.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Slowcore-ish indie folk, yeah. Maybe my last pick that I\u2019ll have here is <em>Dirty Mind<\/em> by Prince. There\u2019s so many [of his albums] I could choose \u2014 maybe <em>Sign o\u2019 the Times<\/em> as well \u2014 but <em>Dirty Mind<\/em> is pretty short and it\u2019s great. It was his third album, and it was finally [when he] found a bit of a stride. [His] sound wasn\u2019t totally emulating other people\u2019s stuff like his first two, <em>For You<\/em> and self-titled. But yeah, it\u2019s such a good album. It\u2019s very sexy, it&#8217;s kind of weird. He played all the parts himself. Yeah, it\u2019s great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus:<\/strong> <strong>Christina saying \u201cslowcore\u201d unlocked Low, <\/strong><strong>[<\/strong><strong><em>Things<\/em><\/strong><strong>] <\/strong><strong><em>We Lost in the Fire<\/em><\/strong><strong>. [&#8230;] Beautiful.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: I really love that album. I also really love <em>The Curtain Hits the Cast<\/em> and <em>I Could Live in Hope<\/em>. I think like those three albums and even <em>HEY WHAT<\/em>, [which] came out [five years ago]\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Yeah, that was a really good album. It&#8217;s a shame that Mimi Parker died. Oh, well. Alas\u2026 [<\/strong><strong><em>to Winnie<\/em><\/strong><strong>] Other ones? I think we\u2019re at three now.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: [<em>frantically<\/em>] OK, OK, OK, gimme a second.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: This is really hard!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Well, I\u2019ll just say Rafael Toral, <\/strong><strong><em>Spectral Evolution<\/em><\/strong><strong>, while we\u2019re waiting. It\u2019s a 40-minute guitar piece with occasional theremin interlude. It\u2019s really beautiful. It&#8217;s just gorgeous stuff. Came out a couple years ago and I just revisit it so often whenever I notice myself in need of a mood boost.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: There\u2019s a Bill Evans [album] that I find myself\u2014&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: <em>Moon Beams<\/em>? The one with [the cover art of a woman] lying down.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: I mean, <em>Waltz for Debby<\/em> is OK for me. [&#8230;] And also <em>Explorations<\/em>, in the vein of just listening to an album that makes you feel incredibly calm or centred. I would say I listen to those two a lot, and I don\u2019t really want to think about it anymore. I\u2019m just driving myself insane. But <em>Space 1.8<\/em> by Nala Sinephro is a really awesome album. I love psychedelic harp music.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: How do I choose? I mean, Tracy Chapman, self-titled, really holds up so well. And [<strong>REDACTED<\/strong>]. That\u2019s five.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: And then I\u2019ll say \u2014 oh, man, feels like cheating to take a different Talking Heads album.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: No, it\u2019s not cheating.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: I\u2019m gonna say <\/strong><strong><em>Remain in Light<\/em><\/strong><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Yeah, that\u2019s a great one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: You can\u2019t go wrong.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: One of the best. I was debating between that one and <em>77<\/em>, but some of my most favourite Talking Heads songs, I would say, are on <em>77<\/em> and [<em>More<\/em>] <em>Songs About Buildings and Food<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Yeah, that\u2019s a good one too.<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: OK, switch out [<strong>REDACTED<\/strong>] for <em>E\u2022MO\u2022TION<\/em> by Carly Rae Jepsen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: I\u2019m surprised it took you a while to get to that one too. And that\u2019s where we \u2026 differ.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Frankly, I don\u2019t know what lands at the top, but I need to curate the albums that the public finds out that I like.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Yeah, Carly Rae Jepsen is a really big hot-button topic in our house, mainly because I don\u2019t think she\u2019s that \u2026 great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: I would agree.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: Thank you so much!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: It\u2019s fine! It\u2019s literally fine.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: She&#8217;s OK. You know, like, she\u2019s not the <em>best<\/em> pop star I have ever [heard]. I want to say something a little bit controversial here. I personally think Olivia Rodrigo makes more interesting music than Carly Rae Jepsen.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: I don\u2019t really care about \u201cinteresting.\u201d Interesting is not the factor here. [On] <em>E\u2022MO\u2022TION<\/em>, the songs are so <em>big<\/em> in so many ways. I mean, the production is big. Her vocals are big, and they\u2019re hilariously effusive lyricism, and it\u2019s just \u201csilly girl who loves boys\u201d \u2014&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: That\u2019s why I said Olivia Rodrigo, you know? She can make a hit about boys.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Did she write \u201cBoy Problems?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: No, but\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Did she write \u201cRun Away with Me?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: She wrote <em>Sour<\/em>, and I think that\u2019s a great record.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: [<em>shakes head with disgust<\/em>]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: I like that song where she took the Elvis Costello riff. I can&#8217;t remember which one that was. <\/strong>[<em>Editor\u2019s note<\/em>: I was thinking of \u201cBrutal.\u201d]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: Olivia Rodrigo did?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: Yeah. From \u201cPump It Up.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>W<\/strong>: I haven\u2019t heard that. I need to hear that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stylus: But, you know, I\u2019m not meaning to get on my high horse about plagiarism, or whatever, in the music business because everything is just building on top of everything [else]. But it was very <\/strong><strong><em>clearly<\/em> <\/strong><strong>the \u201cPump It Up\u201d riff.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C<\/strong>: People are not really happy with her first record because she essentially just ripped [off] Hayley Williams and Taylor Swift. I\u2019m like, \u201cyou know what? That\u2019s her first album. Let her figure it out.\u201d I don\u2019t know. I like stealing. As an artist myself, stealing is so important and integral to making good art, in my personal, humble opinion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2014<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, in summation and in alphabetical order:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Christina\u2019s Top Five<\/strong> (although I guess they listed six without any of us noticing)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>\u201cArthur Russell\u2019s whole discography\u201d<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Bill Evans, either <em>Waltz for Debby<\/em> or <em>Explorations<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Gang of Four, <em>Entertainment!<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Little Kid, <em>SUN MILK<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Nala Sinephro, <em>Space 1.8<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Talking Heads, <em>Talking Heads: 77<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Maggie\u2019s Top Five<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Bill Orcutt, <em>The Four Louies<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Low, <em>Things We Lost in the Fire<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Miles Davis, <em>In a Silent Way<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Rafael Toral, <em>Spectral Evolution<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Talking Heads, <em>Remain in Light<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Winnie\u2019s Top Five<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Aretha Franklin, <em>Aretha Live at Fillmore West<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Carly Rae Jepsen, <em>E\u2022MO\u2022TION<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Prince, <em>Dirty Mind<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Tom Waits, <em>Mule Variations<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Tracy Chapman, <em>Tracy Chapman<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Wow. Holy shit! Look at how cool our lists are! OK, bye.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Maggie A. 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